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Here is where I will be posting anything I find about new information coming from Japan. It is from a variety of sources including Zipzo on Smashboards
Just added a whole lot of alt costumes
Updated with more moves
- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.
- Meta knights up b is like Marth’s up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.
His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don’t know yet about its priority.
- Pivot cancel is still in
- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It’s kind of like greninja’d shadow sneak thing except you can’t time it.
- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.
- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It’s now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.
- Zelda has a white costume
- Ike feels unchanged. I was never an Ike main so I don’t know the specifics but his attacks were all the same general thing, nothing new I noticed.
- pacman. He feels slow, but his attacks felt like they had a good hitbox, because he’s really fat and his legs stretch when he kicks. He just felt really interesting to play, but I ended up using his aerials the most because of their hit boxes.
- Peach’s turnip pull speed is nerfed. She can still move in to float to do things like crown and nair. Her fsmash goes tennis club, golf club, and frying pan. I believe it’s a set order now.
- Sonic still dies pitifully if you end up in a spin without a jump
- ledge stalling may be impossible now? If you drop from the ledge and jump back up, you literally will just NOT grab it. It’s like the ledge gains invulnerability to your grab for a certain time after you let go. DO NOT TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT. I am not 100% sure I need to try it again on my 2nd go around but in my last match I basically lived on the ledge trying this out.
I could no re-grab the ledge directly after letting go and jumping back in to obvious grab range.
- palutena’s smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.
- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.
- Lucina is not playable. (in the demo, meaning unlockable)
- chrom appears in robins victory pose.
- they are really right on pictures and video. I almost got kicked out for trying.
- villagers up b is the most overpowered recovery I’ve ever seen.
- whoever is worried about combos, there are combos.
- YOU CAN CANCEL RUN WITH SHEILD.
- Olimar has Alph as a costume
- Robin’s hair model doesn’t change. Only color changes.
- Fox has a Wolf color scheme
- Glasses Pikachu confirmed
- Fierce Diety Link confirmed (Face changes too)
- White tunic and Purple tunic confirmed
- His down air has less recovery frames, but doesn’t have as much knockback.
- Boomerang throwing animation is more reminiscent of how it used to look in 64
Peach: Fire Peach
Yoshi: Black, Purple (no white)
Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
Pit: No black color
Palutena: Viridi color
Olimar: Alph (full model change)
Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight
Fox: Wolf color (may just be Brawl’s black Fox)
Pikachu: Gold/Silver’s Trainer Hat, X/Y’s Trainer hat, Party hat returns
Charizard: Shiny Charizard
Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
Pac-Man: His color doesn’t change, but he wears accessories.
Charizard’s up throw is seismic toss, similar to Kirby’s throw.
Marth double fair is not possible.
Shulks second jump is a somersault. Feels funny. All his smash attacks have a strange millisecond-ish load-up time before they come out. The Monado powering up or whatever.
the ledge is DEFINITELY tougher to grab and there is no snap. Unfortunately both Marth and Shulk flip for their 2nd jump so I could not test ledge re-grabbing within a short window of time because it waits for their flip animation to finish before actually grabbing.
ZSS comes in dark blue, really light blue (lighter than her normal costume) green, black, and red.
Shulk has amazing spacing options because his Monado reaches so damn far
The game still has a sense of floatiness to it that is present in brawl. It’s definitely not like Melee where you drop like bricks.
shield rolling is extremely fast and there’s a neat little sparkle star effect when you do it and acting out of shield is as well. I think of it like a mini-wave dash. No wave dashing or l-cancelling. Just rolling baby.
Peach’s butt bomb is hugely buffed. It has barely any startup time anymore.
- link has a costume with like red markings under his eyes. It looks nothing like link… But his eyes are whitened and has red markings and he’s dark colored clothing. There’s also a white and blue link.
- toon link has the four swords colors + old style link color, the black with red eyes.
- there is no Melee dash dancing. It’s incredibly hard to do with the circle pad but it’s essentially the same thing as brawls. IE not super useful or practical.
- I retested ledge mechanics.
I WAS RIGHT. I used megaman this time and reaffirmed my experiences with Ike.
There is a short and small window of time after dropping from the ledge that the ledge becomes “immune” to your grab.
This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMP MECHANIC. It was completely individually on the character. It is not very apparent on characters with flips for 2ndary jumps, as the ledge grab action waits for the flip to finish and the window for “ledge immunity” seems to end before the flip animation does. Megaman and Ike do not have flips, and it was impossible for me to the ledge after jumping/falling off it for a period of time.
Pikachu has a hat with sunglasses on the front costume, and a fighter headband (red and black colored I think).
megaman has a green/orange costume, and white/red costume, a blue and white costume
Zelda’s new phantom move.
It doesn’t hit a character right up in her grill. The phantom spawns maybe a character away, so if your opponent is right up on you, the phantom will just spawn in front of them and whiff.
Wolf deconfirmed
Fox has an alternate skin
That looks exactly like wolf
He’s gray fur
Purple eye device and grayish clothing
It’s the only skin that changes foxes fur
This is only a color, NOT a costume
No Dry Bowser alt for Bowser.
No metal sonic
Marth has an Orange Skin
Charizard can be purple, yellow, red, grey
Megaman has yellow
And black
When palutena rolls she turns invisible
Like she’s teleporting
Kirby has a “naked Metaknight” alternate
made a mistake for the light blue costume of ZSS it’s actually gray
It just looked light blue to me in passing
No Masked DDD alt
Diddy kong only gets 1 banana
If you pull another
It disappears
Back Ledge Grabbing is back
Shield while running
Shulks standing a is a 3 hit combo
Shulks up b is a TWO PART combo
You can choose to do the second part by inputting b again
Basically he swipes up like dolphin slash
If you hit b again
He will do a swipe in front of him and send the opponent flying
His up smash is sort of like palutena, except a much smaller pillar of light
Coming from his monado
I think his running dash attack is just a sword swipe
Don’t quote me on that I didn’t take it to memory (As I quote him anyway lol)
Shulk lunges forward and swipes down with his forward b
In to the ground
When you press neutral b it changes the insignia
Can’t change while rolling, unsure attacking
His bair he shoves his sword behind him without even turning around
Like under his arm
Captain falcon still has his knee of justice but they made HUGE landing lag
His side b still does strike dmg (I’m sorry), I think I misinterpreted a guy next to me who was playing him say that. Shouldn’t have said it without confirming myself
Dark red charizard
Blue charizard
Shulk has the underpants alt we all know about, rest are recolors
Little Mac has 16 costumes!
He has 8 costumes for his fleshy self, and 8 costumes for his wireframe
Palutena “She honestly is kind of like a baton twirler”
Aerials:
Back - Shield smack
Forward - kick similar to Zeldas
Up - similar to pit’s in brawl in how it hits but not animation
Dash attack is a shield slam thing
Ftilt wheel spinning thing
up tilt spins the staff above her head
her down tilt spins the staff under your opponent
down smash slames her wings down on both sides
fsmash slaps her wings on your opponent in front of you
Pictochat stage is in
Tomodachi life stage is in (the one seen in earlier leaks)
There is no yellow lucario. There is green, purple, dark gray, and the rest are shades of blue.
Robin
He has two swords, the magic and the non-magic one. (Forgive me, not an awakening veteran).
All of tilts are using the physical sword. They have good combo ability. All of his smashes use the magic sword, which has an electric effect.
When in the air, if you use the inputs for a smash attack (and you still have the magic sword available), you will do an aerial that uses the magic sword. If you just typically hit an aerial he will use the normal sword.
You use up your magic sword quite quickly but it regenerates rather fast so it’s not like it ruins your tempo. Very fast.
The fire move we’ve seen is actually a fireball that comes from above robins head and rains down in the vicinity in front of robin. His neutral b shoots and electric lightnig bolt straight across the stage.
The healing move is his down b and you would be surprised to know it heals for a LOT (I healed for about 20%) and it stuns your opponent while you heal. It has a start up though so it’s not as easy to land as any regular grab. I can see Robin being a PAIN IN THE *** to people who can’t avoid getting caught in it. Unsure if you can force break it from slapping buttons, I only played AS him.
His up b jumps up a bit and shoots wind slicers down. Important to note it’s actually not straight up, he jumps jump and slides slightly to the side in the direction you’re facing THEN shoots them down, so it can be a ground option too.
Marth feels very nerfed. His range seems even worse than in Brawl (I was whiffing fsmashes like crazy and I’m pretty good with tippers). Aside fr his range and no ability to double fair he seems mostly the same, aside from running faster. It’s his range that REALLY feels kinda killer to His melee/brawl play style.
Tipper ing with Marth seems to require your opponent to be a lot closer than ever before, it seems he won’t be as much of a spacing monster as he’s always been.
This can’t be overstated enough, his range feels significantly shorter (by significantly I mean that it’s noticeable. It’s all relative of course), and seems to be his most notable nerf. Spacing his tippers seems to Be considerably more skill-based due to the range needed.
Let me clarify some things on Pac-Man.
He DID feel slow but he wasn’t ineffective. I generally play faster characters in general. Me and my friend have talked extensively about him having both played him and he feels A LOT like mr game and watch.
It’s kind of a…”dorky” slowness, does that make sense? It’s really so hard to explain without you actually playing him.
He’s got this quirkiness in his movements, but his hitboxes are really good which appear to be the compensation for his pretty slow movement speed.
Sonic does not have the disjointed hitbox on his utilt anymore.
Por lo que se ve, Daraen tiene aéreos normales que los hace con la espada, y smashes aéreos que los hace con magia, simplemente increíble, ahora si que ya no dudo de que será mi main
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No hay color negro de Pit, que raro, no? Jajajaja Dark Pit mega confirmed
Se ve que no pueden hacer fotos ni grabar vídeos y que casi lo echan del sitio por intentarlo. Madre mía que hijos de puta llegan a ser, haciendo que los japos disfruten a muerte y el resto del mundo se coma los mocos, lo veo super injusto, HIJOS DE PUTA!
